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Bill Weintraub

Bill Weintraub

intercourse not outercourse

1-10-2006

Recently some buttboy on a message board tried to refer to Frot using the old-fashioned "safer-sex" term "outercourse."

Analists do that to denigrate Frot and to mislead the public as to the true nature of Frot.

Specifically, to make it appear that Frot isn't real sex.

They're wrong -- and they know it.

Frot is male-male, genital-genital, penile-penile, sexual intercourse -- which is defined by Webster's as "physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia";

I repeat: sexual intercourse is defined by Webster's as "physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia";

So: Frot is male-male, genital-genital, penile-penile, sexual intercourse; and as such Frot corresponds exactly to penile-vaginal sexual intercourse, which too of course is genital-genital.

Frot is male/male sexual intercourse.

Don Frazer said so way back in 2002 in a reply to a post from Mark Finn aka the Cockster titled Ways of Making Love:

Re: Ways of making love

2-27-2002

Right on. Cockster is correct that we must continually re-define what we're about here to the outside. There is a fine line here between having sex and making love.

Glory holes offer nameless/faceless sex. Buddies make love.

And, pardon the pun, but we seem to be pussyfooting around use of the word "intercourse" as it is traditionally understood to mean hetero copulation, or at the very least penetration of some kind.

Yet when buddies mate through their genitals, they share a masculine intimacy which can properly be considered intercourse. And, as Cockster said, not a preliminary or fleeting foreplay, but in fact the main event where sexual communion leads to climax.

At GayHealth and other sites, we had to break through the notion that frottage is not much more than a preliminary tease before something else begins. We have been categorized as a fetish, as juvenile, as "vanilla" etc.

Only when we proudly define male/male intercourse as genital sex do outsiders seem to understand that what we are talking about is true masculine mating.

Incredible that something so instinctive and natural should need such complex definitions and re-pharasing, but that's how it seems.

when buddies mate through their genitals, they share a masculine intimacy which can properly be considered intercourse ... true masculine mating

Only when we proudly define male/male intercourse as genital sex do outsiders seem to understand that what we are talking about is true masculine mating.

No one says it better than Don.

So: Frot is not outercourse.

That's "safer-sex" silliness and buttboy obstructionism.

Frot is true, authentic, male-male intercourse.

Don't ever let anyone anywhere say otherwise.


Robert Loring

Re: intercourse not outercourse

1-11-2006

I guess the buttboyz will never understand that it's genital to genital sex and NOT genital to anus sex. Both frot and straight sex are genital to genital. Frot is normal. Butt banging is NOT! The BFD will go to any stretch to confuse the reality and to attempt to justify their shit fucking.

Sir Robert


Greg Milliken

Re: intercourse not outercourse

1-12-2006

I guess the buttboyz will never understand that it's genital to genital sex and NOT genital to anus sex.

They'll learn to understand it. Or they'll die. Living without understanding it is neither realistic nor feasible.

Greg Milliken


David

Re: intercourse not outercourse

5-28-2006

Hello Guys;

I have a hard time thinking of anal penetration as "sex". To me, the term sex refers to a loving, mutual, consentual genital-to-genital intercourse. I would not term genital-to-genital contact that was out of anger, rage, frustration, or misguided conformity to be "sex". Anal "sex" is most definitely damaging to both people involved, in physical, mental, and spiritual ways. Anal is NOT SEX!!! Maybe we should encourage the buttboys to use the term "dickinshittercourse" to describe their activity. I know that was bad, but it is exactly what anal is...putting your dick in another person's shit chute. I value my masculinity, and my partner's masculinity, so much more than to do that! And anal is supposed to be the highest and most intimate form of gay sexual expression???? Thank goodness, as I have said in my other postings, now I know the truth. As Bill puts it so well, "Cockrub Warriors Rule, and Frot Men Rock". I love being a Frot MAN!

Bearhugs, David


Bill Weintraub

Re: intercourse not outercourse

5-27-2006

Thank you David.

"dickinshittercourse" is excellent!

Because it's accurate.

That's what anal penetration is.

The top puts his dick in the shitter, and pumps.

And guess what comes out?

When speaking and writing about anal, I refer to fecal material -- shit -- a lot.

Because I've found that it bothers the shitfairies to do that.

It breaks through their denial.

They don't want to think about the shit.

Even though it's always there.

So I make sure that when they talk to me, they have to think about it.

I also talk about death and disease.

That too bothers them.

In the debate on gay dot com, Greg Milliken referred to men in late-stage AIDS as being like zombies.

One of the shitfairies, a self-professed barebacker, got very upset at that, and said, leave the dying their dignity.

What hypocrisy!

He and other disease-spreading buttboys like him were the reason our "dignified dying" -- were dying.

And death with dignity, though a pleasant thought, denies the very terrible realities of death.

When my lover Brett died, he was zombie-like.

He had severe brain damage, he was covered in sores, he staggered when he walked, he'd lost the use of his left arm, his jaw had collapsed.

And those are just the more palatable aspects of his condition.

How dignified was that?

Don't let the buttboys pretend that such doesn't happen or that death is dignified.

Of course we took care of Brett and minimized his pain.

But what I was supposed to say?

It's okay hon, at least you're dying with dignity.

This is pure and utter bullshit.

Death is not dignified.

Death is a gross and inherently undignified gritty physical process, and as the eminent surgeon Sherwin Nuland stated in his book How We Die, death from AIDS is the worst death of all.

There was an article on Yahoo yesterday about climbers on Mt Everest walking past a dying man as they neared the summit.

At least 40 people did that.

Why?

Because they were essentially tourists who'd paid big bucks -- tens of thousands of dollars -- to be able to say, "I climbed Everest."

And they didn't want anything so inconvenient as someone's death disrupting their peak, as it were, experience.

Sound familiar?

The buttboys are heavily invested emotionally, and as a community, financially, in anal.

They've paid big bucks, in more ways than one, in order to devote their lives to this essentially selfish and meaningless act.

They don't want thoughts of death disrupting the experience.

They're part of that extremely SELFISH ME ME ME society.

That's why it's a good idea to remind them of death.

Because there's ME-time;

and then there's eternity.

Eternity is a lot longer.

Interestingly, one of our most vocal critics on gay dot com was a promiscuous analist who claimed to have climbed Everest.

Thus uniting in one person two of the most selfish endeavors of the age: climbing Everest for the bragging rights, and anal penetration.

SELFISH.

These men are profoundly selfish.

When shit, disease, and death cross their path, they claim they're not there.

They don't want anything as messy as reality interfering with their relentless pursuit of the rectum.

That's why we have to speak the truth -- to these men and everyone else.

Truth.

There's no ally more powerful.

Keep speaking the truth.

Anal penetration KILLS.

Physically mentally spiritually.

And if buttboys and shitfairies and dildo dopes want to call it "sex," then let's give it its proper names:

shit sex

pain sex

disease sex

death sex

and by all means,

dickinshittercourse

Thank you David.

You're a true Warrior.

© All material Copyright 2006 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.


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