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Jesus and the Truth




Robert Loring

Robert Loring

Jesus and the Truth

4-13-2006

You know I've really had it with the weak effeminate image portrayed when it comes to Christ. Some people seem to have the impression that Christ was some weak, wimpy, sissified coward who just let anything go and who coward to anyone and everything that came along when the FACT is that just the opposite is true.

The FACT is that Jesus and his Apostles were MASCULINE not effeminate cowards. And the FACT is that not only were they masculine BUT they were MASCULINE WARRIORS and not a pack of male wimps sissified beyond belief. It's very popular today to be looking for the "real Jesus" and for the "historical Jesus" but I notice that most of what is being "found" only reinforces the MIS-conception of Jesus as effeminate wimp.

The FACT is that Jesus was the most perfect example of MALE MASCULINITY in my opinion. And, in my opinion, he was a perfect example of what it is to be a TRUE WARRIOR. He did not go to and fro playing the role of macho-man just as he did not go to and fro playing the role of sissified wimp. The role that he played was that of MASCULINE WARRIOR and he never passed up an opportunity to defend himself or confront those who stood against him. He had gutts and he had balls folks! The image of Jesus as wimp is a LIE spread and maintained by the Christian Church thus making that image as false doctrine. Think about it.............

Jesus was also NOT one defeated in his own mind. In fact, Jesus was very self assured in his own mind and to the point that he DEFENDED what he believed in and what he believed to be the TRUTH. Jesus had a cause and he supported that cause. Jesus had a cause and he defended that cause. Jesus had a cause and he wasted no time getting his message out to anyone who would listen. He did not sit around wringing his hands like some old maid or worrying about what other people might think of him. In fact, he really didn't give a flying shit what anyone thought of him because he believed so strongly in his cause that what others thought about him was insignificant. He was a MASCULINE WARRIOR who believed his cause was RIGHT and JUST and that is all he needed to take his cause to the whole world. He did NOT allow his enemies to run over him but, instead, he challenged them and met them head on! He didn't have time nor the will for being an effeminate coward because he was a WARRIOR at heart.

On the day that he was crucified he didn't even coware out then. Instead, he took his condemnation by the world like a MASCULINE MAN. Crucifixion is one of the worst ways for any man to die. It is slow death and by the time death comes it is welcomed relief. Yet, even as he hung on the cross he never once pussed out! He never once regretted his cause! He never once surrendered his masculinity! He was a true WARRIOR right up to the very end! How many of you would be willing to go through such? How many of you would puss out as you hung on a cross? How many of you would coware and give into the world or the BFD?

REAL Warriors LIVE IT! Being a masculine warrior is not simply in the imagination of a man who really is a masculine warrior. Such a man LIVES it and Jesus, I submit, was such a man. The question is, ARE YOU? How many of you simply wear your warriorship and your masculinity on your shirtsleeve? How many of you try to keep your masculine warrior side hidden from public view as you chose to wear the MASK of cowardness and femininity or machoism? How many are REALLY following in the footsteps of Christ as MASCULINE WARRIOR instead of conforming to the dictates of the BFD and the feminists in our society who are seeking to DESTROY manhood altogether?

Are any of you aware that one of the biggest problems in the Christian Church today is feminized males? There are many discussions going on right now among pastors about this problem that is growing. Men in our churches and everywhere else are searching for MASCULINITY but all they are finding is wimpiness and cowardness thanks to the BFD and the feminists. In our churches all they are finding is the standard image of Jesus as wimp and coward effeminized to the point that he is portrayed as neither male or female.

Jesus was NOT defeated in his own mind yet there are large numbers of Christians and MALES today who ARE defeated within their own minds! The faith that Jesus promoted and taught was a WARRIOR FAITH not a faith of sissies and cowards. Christianity was ORIGINALLY a MASCULINE WARRIOR faith. Don't believe that? Then consider all the WARRIOR images used in the Bible and spoken of by Jesus and those who followed him. Consider the images of armor, swords, eagles, banners, horses, warriors, mounted armies, shields, breastplates, etc etc etc!! That all sounds pretty WARRIORLIKE to me!

The image we hold today of Jesus as wimpy sissy, balless man/woman is a LIE! The image promotes the unspoken idea that Jesus was a man defeated in his own mind. That PC image of Christ is NOT the BIBILICAL image portrayed of Christ. The image of Christ as neutered and balless Savior is NOT the biblical image of Christ. It is an image that comes from human society having compromised it's conceptions and beliefs about Christ. Jesus as wimp-boy is an Antichrist, "against Christ", image. Think about it...........

Now, I understand that not all of you on this site are Christians. Understand that in this post I AM talking to those who are Christians. I'm talking to them because most of you who are Christians are DEFEATED ALREADY in your own minds and THAT is the PROBLEM!

to be continued..............

Sir Robert


Bill Weintraub

Re: Jesus and the Truth

4-16-2006

Thank you Robert.

Because today's Easter, I want to move this post to the top of the list for a bit, and say that I agree with Robert and support what he's saying in this post and of course in Warrior Christendom.

At the end of the Warrior Christendom webpage, there's a list of the articles Robert's written for posting on this site, and also a list of the posts he's replied to.

Guys, all our posts are important and, eventually, I hope to have all of the posts in Warriors Speak cross-referenced in that way.

So guys like Naked Wrestler and Greg Milliken and Oscar Vallejo and Chuck Tarver and Mart Finn and Don Frazer and David McQuarrie and Boomer -- all of whom have multiple posts -- will be cross-referenced.

Of course, with more than 400 pages and multiple posts per page, it's very time consuming to do that.

But eventually it will get done.

Your posts constitute an "oral history" of the Frot Movement, they demonstrate the ways in which our thinking has evolved, and they're very important.

And again, EVERY POST AND EVERY GUY WHO POSTS IS IMPORTANT.

Not just the people I've named here.

EVERY PERSON WHO POSTS IS IMPORTANT.

Posting, donating, coming out, getting involved -- all are part of the process of vanquishing fear and self-defeat and living as a WARRIOR -- true to yourself, true to your dreams, true to your cause.

Robert:

Jesus was also NOT one defeated in his own mind. In fact, Jesus was very self assured in his own mind and to the point that he DEFENDED what he believed in and what he believed to be the TRUTH. Jesus had a cause and he supported that cause. Jesus had a cause and he defended that cause. Jesus had a cause and he wasted no time getting his message out to anyone who would listen. He did not sit around wringing his hands like some old maid or worrying about what other people might think of him. In fact, he really didn't give a flying shit what anyone thought of him because he believed so strongly in his cause that what others thought about him was insignificant. He was a MASCULINE WARRIOR who believed his cause was RIGHT and JUST and that is all he needed to take his cause to the whole world. He did NOT allow his enemies to run over him but, instead, he challenged them and met them head on! He didn't have time nor the will for being an effeminate coward because he was a WARRIOR at heart.

On the day that he was crucified he didn't even coward out then. Instead, he took his condemnation by the world like a MASCULINE MAN. Crucifixion is one of the worst ways for any man to die. It is slow death and by the time death comes it is welcomed relief. Yet, even as he hung on the cross he never once pussed out! He never once regretted his cause! He never once surrendered his masculinity! He was a true WARRIOR right up to the very end! How many of you would be willing to go through such? How many of you would puss out as you hung on a cross? How many of you would cower and give into the world or the BFD?

REAL Warriors LIVE IT! Being a masculine warrior is not simply in the imagination of a man who really is a masculine warrior. Such a man LIVES it and Jesus, I submit, was such a man. The question is, ARE YOU? How many of you simply wear your warriorship and your masculinity on your shirtsleeve? How many of you try to keep your masculine warrior side hidden from public view as you chose to wear the MASK of cowardness and femininity or machoism? How many are REALLY following in the footsteps of Christ as MASCULINE WARRIOR instead of conforming to the dictates of the BFD and the feminists in our society who are seeking to DESTROY manhood altogether?

To our Christians -- A Joyous Resurrection Sunday.

To all -- A Joyous Spring.

May it be a season of hope and renewal.

© All material Copyright 2006 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.


blackjack

Re: Jesus and the Truth

4-17-2006

Sir Robert you are so right on target. Not long ago I saw a panel discussion about "The Passion of Christ" with the actor who played Jesus (I forgot his name) but he said that was a major purpose of the movie. To show Jesus as a strong MASCULINE MALE. I once had a professor in college who gave a graphic discription of what a crucifiction was like. I was suprised, I had only seen the watered down version of a crucifiction. The professor theorized that Christ was the biggest liar and nutcase that ever lived; or He was what He said He was. I am certain of the later.

Take care,

Blackjack


JM

5-8-2006

Re: Jesus and the Truth

Jesus is a man worthy of admiration and because He is the ultimate example of masculinity. The reason He is the ultimate example is that He was the only living man ever to be able to sacrifice His life for the lives of the entire world.

I refer to His choice of crucifiction as "The Great Exchange". He exchanged his perfection for the imperfections of every man (and woman) in the world. His sacrificial act allows us to transcend the imperfections of the physical world upon our entrance into the spiritual world. Nobody reading this could accomplish this.

There is no greater man and no greater example of hardcore , no BS masculinity than that example by Jesus.







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