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Redd

Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor

9-9-2006

Why I see the benefit of this site, having happened upon it late June/early July 2006, and others cannot see the site's worth is beyond me. Why does Bill have to beg us to donate?

The Declaration of Independence has a phrase that speaks to the problem Bill faces in trying to get donations:

"Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly ALL EXPERIENCE HATH SHOWN THAT MANKIND ARE MORE DISPOSED TO SUFFER WHILE EVILS ARE SUFFERABLE, THAN TO RIGHT THEMSELVES BY ABOLISHING THE FORMS TO WHICH THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED." [emphasis mine]

In other words, The Declaration of Independence required colonists to delcare themselves independent as free colonies from the tyranny of King George III. The biggest, most difficult obstacle standing in their way wasn't Britian. Britian's opposition was a given. The biggest obstacle was the colonists themselves, as Jefferson notes: "all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

So rather than right a wrong, a wrong that we've grown used to, we stay with the same evils that deny us our freedom, our independence, our masculinity, our brotherhood.

Let's relate the point to this site:

This site is men's declaration of independence. We men are the colonists who have grown used to the oppression of masculinity by the tyrannical King George IIIs--analists, heterosexism, religious fanaticism, etc. Bill, the site's Thomas Jefferson, and the other writers--Sir Robert, Chuck, Gregg, NakedWrestler, etc. have given voice to our independence through this site.

Bill and company have detailed the atrocities of King George IIIs, so that our independence from them isn't done for "light and transient causes." In other words, we no longer support financially the causes of our oppressors; we DO support the cause of our liberation and independence: we DO support this site.

Bill begs us to free ourselves, but we "are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right [ourselves] by abolishing the forms [analism, heterosexism, religious fanaticism, etc.] to which we are accustomed."

There is a price to pay for our freedom. Paying for freedom is another given. Freedom is never free without sacrifice because the likes of King George III don't want those they enslave to be free. Your freedom exposes their folly.

But here's the wonderful conclusion to The Declaration of Indpendence:

"And for the support of this declaration we mutually pledge to each other our lives, and our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

What a statment of warrior/soldier commitment. Notice that those men pledged to each other; they committed to each other their "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor." Has not Bill and company made the same commitment?

What does Bill ask: that we donate.

Bill told me that many people visit this sites daily and how that if each visitor contributed $1 a month he, Bill, could spread the word about the site, expose more guys to its freeing message, make all men's ability to find a buddy much easier, and help restore a healthy masculinity.

Donating monthly will help spread the message of healthy masculinity through advertisements that will reach a larger audience. Your financial support will say for you what you won't say to free yourself.

Bill is doing a good work because he's fighting for masculinity to be allowed to be what it is--masculine.

Redd


Bill Weintraub

Re: Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor

9-12-2006

Thank you Redd.

This beautiful and powerful statement first appeared as a reply to the Warriors or Soldiers? message thread.

I'm giving Redd's post its own thread however because -- well, not to put too fine a point on it -- no donations have come in since he posted it.

So you need to be clear that when guys like Redd -- or myself -- make moderate, reasoned appeals to your better interest -- and that's exactly what he's done -- he's appealed to your reason and your own not simply better but best interests -- you don't respond.

Which then leaves someone -- usually me -- with no recourse but to harangue you.

Call you names.

Like "fag."

For which I'm then attacked.

But what would you have me do?

If you won't respond to Redd's rational appeal, if all you'll respond to are threats and mean language -- then that's what you'll get.

Because, as Redd, and a handful of others understand, the sites and this work, must be kept going.

Indeed, the stakes get higher with each passing day.

Which I spent the last part of August and the early days of September explaining to you in post after post, which I then summarized not once but three times, in the message threads titled What are they thinking?, Blindsided, and NY Times goes gaga for the girl within, endorses prison buttfucking.

It was a lot of work gathering, synthesizing, and presenting that information.

Indeed, by my count, there were a total of 14 posts, including the last three, setting out the new information I'd obtained through my contacts on the PACHA and elsewhere in the AIDS prevention community, statements from Dr Cohen, Dr Judson, Dr Chin, Dr Halperin and other researchers, which when combined with previous information I'd gathered over the last year, including Buchbinder et al and the Surgeon General's statement, spelled out very clearly that condoms and condom campaigns are not efficacious, that the per contact risk of acquiring HIV through both vaginal and anal but especially anal is WAY HIGHER than we'd known even as late as a year ago, and that HIV changes the human genome in ways that are irreversible.

Is that an argument in favor of not doing anal?

YES.

Is that an argument in favor of getting our information in front of the public?

YES.

Does that information strengthen you in your resolve not to do anal?

I hope so.

Does that information, when combined with our discussions of heterosexualization and Natural Masculinity, help you better understand your place in this world and what that place should be?

It should.

But you still won't donate.

So what if condoms don't work?

So what if every age group in the gay male "community" that can become saturated with HIV is doing so?

So what if HIV becomes part of your DNA?

So what if the nation's leading paper of record daily strips your Masculinity from you?

Leaving you and everyone else in America more vulnerable to anal and its attendant diseases.

Diseases we might well refer to as diseases of feminization.

I mentioned in one of my posts a Slate article, which eventually -- when I don't have to appeal for funds -- I'll get around to discussing.

It showed a huge increase in hetero anal.

Hetero.

Would a man secure in and endowed with his Natural Masculinity fuck a woman in the ass?

NO.

That's a degraded and degrading act.

It is the act, paradoxically, not of a Man, but of a feminized male.

And that's what's going on: feminization and effeminization.

Let's take a look at what Redd said:

This site is men's declaration of independence. We men are the colonists who have grown used to the oppression of masculinity by the tyrannical King George IIIs--analists, heterosexism, religious fanaticism, etc. Bill, the site's Thomas Jefferson, and the other writers--Sir Robert, Chuck, Gregg, NakedWrestler, etc. have given voice to our independence through this site.

Yes.

Redd says: "the oppression of masculinity"

We as a group -- and we have a terrific core group of Men right now and we always have -- are giving voice to Masculine Independence through this site and through The Man2Man Alliance.

That's why we named it The MAN2MAN Alliance.

So there would be no question as to what we're about.

Don Frazer said it years ago: "Lets continue to define ourselves as men, so everyone knows where we stand."

That's why I called it HEROIC Homosex.

So there'd be no question what we were talking about.

Not the "homosexuality" of feminized males.

But WARRIOR HOMOSEX

PHALLIC HOMOSEX

HEROIC HOMOSEX

And we have continued to develop these themes of an Alliance and cohort of MEN dedicated to Masculinity and to a sexual ethos which is PHALLIC and FAITHFUL.

Redd speaks of three tyrannies:

  • Heterosexism -- a product of the forces of heterosexualization, this tyranny confuses "heterosexuality" with masculinity, and teaches that "real men" don't have sex with other men.

    In reality, true or Natural Masculinity and Warrior Homosex are intricately and intimately interconnected and bound together.

  • Analism -- a tyranny which has developed within the gay male subculture but which has its roots in the larger cultural process of heterosexualization; which depends upon the false categories of sexual orientation to divide man from man; and which is characterized by anal penetration, promiscuity, and effeminacy.

    Within analist subculture, feminized males and gender feminist ideologues rule the roost.

  • Religious Fanaticism -- a form of mass hysteria and often mass psychosis which has gripped people and indeed nations worldwide, and which teaches, among other things, that the love of man for man is sin.

    In the United States, religious fanaticism expressed as an exclusive evangelical Christianity has completely distorted and in fact obliterated the message of Christ, while embedding itself in the Republican Party in a naked pursuit of money, influence, and power.

    Its ultimate goal is to replace the United States of America with a Christian States of America, in which Christianity as interpreted by its reverends and divines, would replace democracy and the rule of law.

    Evangelical Christianity is virulently opposed to any expression of affection or love between men.

    And while paying lip service to "patriarchy," the evangelical churches themselves are controlled by people, usually feminized males and women, who are deeply distrustful of the most basic forms and expression of Natural Masculinity and of any sort of the male-bonding activities which have characterized the lives of Men for Millenia.

Those are the tyrannies we oppose and which are opposed to us.

Bill and company have detailed the atrocities of King George IIIs, so that our independence from them isn't done for "light and transient causes."

Right.

So many atrocities that it's difficult to know where to begin, but at the top of the list, putting aside for a moment the distortion of faith and the perversion of Man's relationship to God, would have to be:

The destruction of Natural Masculinity and with it the Natural Love of Man for Man; followed by

The construction of sexual orientation and with it the analist gay ghetto dominated by anal penetration, promiscuity, and effeminacy; the result of which has been

The deaths, in America, of 500,000 gay and bi men and the infection of another 500,000 with a universally fatal pathogen.

Worldwide, there have been 25 million deaths from AIDS, with another 40 million currently infected.

So the destruction of and continuing attacks upon Natural Masculinity -- by analism, by heterosexism, and by religious fanaticism; these ongoing attacks upon Natural Masculinity, which is in fact the heritage and birthright of every Man, must be seen as the atrocity which leads to all the others.

Examples of Natural Masculinity by the way abound in world myth and literature.

I often cite them here, and today I happened to be reading a relatively minor Shakespeare play, Cymbilene, and came across two brothers, Guiderius and Arviragus, who clearly represent Natural Masculinity.

While another character, Cloten, is suffering from a false or cultural masculinity.

And pays for it with his head.

And of course you can see it in their names.

Guiderius is a "guide" to the natural life; and Ar-vir-agus has "man" in the middle of his name.

While Cloten is clotted, blocked, unable to realize his true male potential.

In other words, we no longer support financially the causes of our oppressors; we DO support the cause of our liberation and independence: we DO support this site.

Right.

It is extremely important not to support the causes and money-making engines of your oppressors.

Because they use the money you give them -- to oppress you.

I used the example recently of one of our guys who was buying analist porn.

Not only was the content of that porn oppressing him, but the money he paid for the porn was then used to manufacture more porn and more oppression.

Others of you are still tithing to homophobic churches which teach that love between men is a sin.

To give those people money is, frankly, insane.

Because they use the money you give them to spread that particular lie as far and wide as they can.

Nor should you be donating money to AIDS Service Organizations.

They use your money for condom campaigns, which are not only not effective, but which further cement the identification of "men who have sex with men" with anal penetration.

Bill begs us to free ourselves, but we "are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right [ourselves] by abolishing the forms [analism, heterosexism, religious fanaticism, etc.] to which we are accustomed."

Redd is correct.

Human beings have the capacity, unfortunately, to tolerate conditions which are, on their face, intolerable.

In large part because it's easier to go along to get along -- to suffer while evils are sufferable -- than to abolish the source of the oppression.

There is a price to pay for our freedom. Paying for freedom is another given. Freedom is never free without sacrifice because the likes of King George III don't want those they enslave to be free. Your freedom exposes their folly.

Right.

FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE.

And you ALL know that.

No one past a certain age is so stupid as to think that freedom will be handed him on a silver platter.

"Your freedom exposes the tyrant's folly."

Yes.

If a strong, loving, cohort of MASCULINE MEN emerge who cherish the Manly Virtues, whose sexual expression is MAN2MAN and MANHOOD 2 MANHOOD, who are Faithful, and who REJECT THE LYING LABELS which have for so long imprisoned MEN -- the follies of analism, of heterosexism, and of the religious right -- will be exposed.

Those tyrannies will be robbed of their power, their influence, and not least their money.

They will NOT LET THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT A FIGHT.

No one relinquishes power without a fight.

But here's the wonderful conclusion to The Declaration of Indpendence:

"And for the support of this declaration we mutually pledge to each other our lives, and our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

What a statment of warrior/soldier commitment. Notice that those men pledged to each other; they committed to each other their "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor." Have not Bill and company made the same commitment?

Yes we have.

What we need now is for more of you to join us.

I understand there are reasons many of you think compelling which stop you from doing that.

You are, however, wrong.

Let's start at the most basic level:

You need to understand that a man having erotic thoughts about another man is not illegal.

And never has been.

It was illegal, prior to 2003, in certain places to engage in certain and variable acts.

But it was not and is not illegal to think.

With rare exceptions, thought, and the expression of thought, is constitutionally protected in the US.

So: your thoughts are not illegal,

nor immoral

nor abnormal

nor unnatural.

Each of those last three is directly connected to one of the three tyrannies.

Immoral is the big one for many of you, and that's connected to religious fanaticism and a view of "Christianity" which has nothing to do with Christ or the Faith.

Abnormal of course is the claim of the analist tyranny.

And UNnatural is the assertion of heterosexism.

All three are wrong.

Love between two loving men is not immoral; rather, it is one of the highest expressions of the human spirit.

Frot is not abnormal -- analism is abnormal.

And of course it's not HOMOSEX, but exclusive heterosexuality which is UNnatural, as we have set forth in THE POWER OF THE MASCULINE.

What does Bill ask: that we donate.

Bill told me that many people visit the sites daily and how that if each visitor contributed $1 a month he, Bill, could spread the word about the site, expose more guys to its freeing message, make all men's ability to find a buddy much easier, and help restore a healthy masculinity.

That's all true.

Donating monthly will help spread the message of healthy masculinity through advertisements that will reach a larger audience. Your financial support will say for you what you won't say to free yourself.

Yes, and in that respect it's win-win.

Let Bill say it for now.

When you're ready -- you'll join me in saying so yourself.

Bill is doing a good work because he's fighting for masculinity to be allowed to be what it is--masculine.

YES!

No one else will fight that fight for you.

Do you think people on the cultural or political right will do it?

They will not.

Because that would offend those who sponsor them, who are virtually all either religious right or in league with the religious right.

They will not do that.

YOUR LIBERATION CAN ONLY BE THE WORK OF YOUR HANDS.

To that end, Redd calls upon you to emulate our Founding Fathers and pledge your lives, your fortunes, and your sacred Honor.

And Redd points out how wonderful that pledge was:
"What a statement of warrior/soldier commitment. Notice that those men pledged to each other."

Now, the good news here is that unlike the Founding Fathers, you don't have to literally risk your lives and your fortunes.

They did.

They were traitors to their government, and if they'd lost, their lives would have been forfeit and their property seized.

No one's asking you to take that sort of risk.

But we are asking you to behave Honorably.

We're asking you, if you use the site and have benefited from it, to donate a small amount of money -- whatever you can afford -- each month so that we can ALL move ahead.

So that we can, as Redd said, "spread the word about the site, expose more guys to its freeing message, make all men's ability to find a buddy much easier, and help restore a healthy masculinity."

Those are our goals.

To realize them you have to donate.

There's no other way to do it.

No big foundation's going to fund us -- either from the left or the right.

But YOU can fund us.

Working together, contributing modest sums, you can enable us to break out of this internet ghetto and reach those literally millions of men who need and are ready to hear our message.

And for US -- which means YOU -- to fund that effort is really the best way to go.

Because then we're not beholden to anyone.

Other than ourselves.

That's what the Founding Fathers did.

They pledged to each other, and by so doing achieved their Freedom.

You can do that too.

Or you can go on being oppressed.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

But maybe it's not.

Redd:

The Declaration of Independence required colonists to declare themselves independent as free colonies from the tyranny of King George III. The biggest, most difficult obstacle standing in their way wasn't Britain. Britain's opposition was a given. The biggest obstacle was the colonists themselves.

"The biggest obstacle was the colonists themselves."

Yep.

Thank you Redd.

You're a true Warrior.

Bill Weintraub

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