Bill Weintraub



Hi guys

This message thread is for guys aged 18 to 30 who believe in and support the ideals and goals of The Man2Man Alliance:

  • Frot, not anal

  • Fidelity, not promiscuity

  • Masculinity, not effeminacy

And who understand and accept that they're Men -- not gays, not straights, not something in-between, but MEN.

In this message thread, you're encouraged to leave information about yourself which makes it easier for other guys your age to get to know you and contact you.

Such information should include of course your name -- preferably your real name -- and email address;

any autobiographical info you want to share -- for example, if you're in college, where you're going to school;

and any posts, replies to posts, or articles, you have on our Man2Man Alliance sites.

In order to post, just send your info to me

in the body of an email.

And I'll get you posted.

I know there are now a lot of young guys who visit and use the Alliance.

A few of you have posted.

Most of you are lurking.

It's time for that to stop.

It's time for you to state publically who you are, and to get to know your fellow Warriors.

Because, as Frances recently said,

I don't know that people only motivated by a narrow vision of themselves and not an ideal of community will ever change anything.

She's right.

People motivated only by a narrow vision of themselves and not an ideal of community will never change a thing.

Your generation, however, has embraced change.

It has to.

Otherwise it won't survive.

Make the Alliance -- and its ideal of community and Warriorhood -- part of that change, and a major part of that change, in your own life.

Bill Weintraub

© All material Copyright 2009 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.

Name: Ted


Age: 19

School: California State University, Chico


Majors: Pre-Credential Spanish and Pre-Credential Music Composition

Minor: Chinese

Miscellaneous Information:

I'm bilingual in English and Spanish, I play the piano and [soprano and alto] recorders, I enjoy writing [literature] and composing music. I enjoy creating constructed artistic languages and inventing fictional worlds [geofiction]. I'm not particularly athletic but I do enjoy swimming and working out [weight training]. I'm an ovo-vegetarian and a non-denominational [thinking] Christian.

Name: Michael Plante


Age: 22 going on 23

School: Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana

Posts: An Indiana Man Speaks, and replies to many other posts, including a reply to Pseudo-Masculinity or Natural Masculinity?

Personal Statement:

I am Michael Plante, I am 22 going on 23 and am currently living in Indiana and attending Purdue University in West Lafayette and am majoring in health promotion. So, this site and its excellent material and beliefs is right up my alley, in a way. I'm a staunch supporter for the site and, like many on this site, have very strong opinions on men, masculinity, fidelity, frot and a man's relationship to other men.

I've made a few posts on this site starting with An Indiana Man Speaks, though I'd like to point to one of my better posts in Pseudo-Masculinity or Natural Masculinity? Be sure to read that thread, as it's very insightful.

If you wish to contact me, you can just click on my e-mail address. Alternatively, I also have another e-mail address,, if, for whatever reason my other address isn't working. You can also reach me via AIM as well. My user name is AethercidePhan.

Also, I'm developing a keen interest in setting up a Regional Chapter in my area, and since I live near a university, it seems like a great place to attract other young man, and possibly get some much needed exposure. Of course, I can't do this on my own, and I'd like some support from anyone of our young warriors out there who just so happens to be attending Purdue University as well. I'm hoping this regional chapter will come to pass and succeed, but it won't unless I have some support from some stalwart brothers. So, if you care about mankind's destiny, help me get this regional chapter going and see this through to the end.

This is your fellow warrior, Michael Plante, and now I ask, who will stand with me?

Name: Ryan


Age: 18

Location: Hong Kong, China

Post: A true masculine man

Personal description:

I am still on my way to learn how to be a true warrior and it is always my pleasure to hear from any of you here. I will enter a local university soon and I decide to go to the gym and get involved in combat sports later. My mother tongue is Cantonese.

Name: Junior


Age: 27

Location: Phoenix, AZ


Name: David


Age: 30

Location: United Kingdom

Profession: Aspiring writer.

Interests: Philosophy, History, Conservation.

Ambition: To train myself in Wilderness Survival Skills.


Comment from Bill Weintraub

Thank you guys.

Excellent entries from you all!

Guys --

Recently a guy posted on this board about looking for guys in gay bars.

I don't think that's a great place to look.

Gay bars are analist institutions -- they distribute condoms, for example, thus suggesting very strongly that their patrons will be doing anal.

But, of course, that idea prevails throughout "gay male" life.

That said, I caution guys that wherever you meet someone, whether it's in a gay bar or online or at a gym -- or even at a dojo/fight school -- which I think is the better place to look -- it's very important to make clear to him that you don't under any circumstances do anal, and that you never will.

And you also have to make clear that any sort of "assplay" is totally and forever out of the question.

Otherwise, many guys will think that they can "bring you around."

So you have to be very clear and very firm.

"I don't do anal; if you're into anal, look elsewhere."

And, of course, you shouldn't be having sex with a guy the first time you meet.

You need to spend time getting to know him -- and to know him well -- before anything sexual happens.

I'm saying this because we know there's a very high rate of date-rape among gay-identified males -- one study found that 33% of gay-identified males had been anally date-raped:

Gay men as victims of nonconsensual sex


Incidents of nonconsensual sexual activity among 930 homosexually active men living in England and Wales are analyzed. Of these men, 27.6% said they had been sexually assaulted or had sex against their will at some point in their lives; one third had been forced into sexual activity (usually anal intercourse) by men with whom they had previously had, or were currently having, consensual sexual activity. The contention that male rape is usually committed by heterosexually identified men, primarily as an expression of power and control, is not supported. Recognition that gay men rape other gay men is needed, both by the gay community and support services for victims.

Key words sexual assault - male rape - gay men - sexual behavior

"The contention that male rape is usually committed by heterosexually identified men, primarily as an expression of power and control, is not supported. Recognition that gay men rape other gay men is needed, both by the gay community and support services for victims."

"gay men rape other gay men"

Gay-identified males are routinely anally raped by other gay-identified males.

And that's because their culture teaches, "If it isn't anal, it isn't gay."

So you have to be careful about who you open yourself up to sexually.

Particularly when you're young, and inexperienced.

I discussed this with Michael Plante, who's part of Alliance Youth, and he and I came up with an oath.

Which we call The Oath of Phallic Fidelity.

Some of you may think it's hokey;

and some of you may think it's a great idea.

I actually think it's hot.

But its purpose is to make clear to guys who are coming out of analist culture -- that anal is never and can never be on the table.

Nor can infidelity.

Here's the oath, or pledge, or vow:

I today swear with you and to you, and before almighty God, this sacred oath of Phallic Fidelity.

I swear, before almighty God, that I'll always love you -- you and no other Man.

I swear, before almighty God, that I'll always express my love for you phallically -- through the placing of my phallus against yours.

And in no other way.

And I swear that I'll never ask you to express your love in any other way.

That there may always exist between us the highest bond that can exist between two Men:

The Bond of Phallic Fidelity.

Phallus and Fidelity.

Strength and Honor.

And guys, you can have fun with this as well.

For example, there are those who claim that the word "testify" derives from "testicle."


You can testify to this oath by holding each other's testicles while you swear your mutual Phallic Fidelity.

So the occasion can be hot -- as well as solemn.



For more discussion of the concept of Phallic Fidelity, and of the role Vows such as this one played in the lives of Men in the ancient world, be sure to ck out Two Spearmen.

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