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I really was re-born




WARRIOR BRIAN HULME

Brian

I really was re-born

5-25-2010

You know I have noticed something about myself just lately that is since getting involved with The Alliance I smile, and laugh (in a chuckling way), a lot more, probably because I am now a lot more at ease with myself and am able to say to the world "This is me, Warrior Brian, I want to be with a Man, and you can take it or leave it, so there!"

And THAT is why I keep on and am glad to keep on setting the example of tithing to The Alliance. Many Christians speak of being "Born again" and when you are baptised it can feel that way, but, I really was re-born when I was able to become Warrior Brian so thank you Amen!

God strengthen you in the work you continue to do in looking after Patrick and the work you do on the Alliance and for other men.

Warrior Love to you both,

Brian


Also by Warrior Brian Hulme:

One Christian's Journey

values and morals and honour

The credit crunch will NOT crunch my Manhood my Masculinity or my Warriorhood

CAN MY MAN TO MAN RELATIONSHIP DRAW ME CLOSER TO GOD?

Adam and Jesus the first M2M

Warrior Love True Love

Fight Back

God's stubborn warrior

Warrior Equations

Amor Masculus Masculine Love

Tales of Nova Sparta

Time to be a WARRIOR +2

About Tithing

The Gift: A Christmas Story

Amazing Grace

14th February -- or -- EROS DAY?

The Warrior Altruism of the Warrior God

Worshipping the Warrior God


Bill Weintraub

Re: I really was re-born

5-31-10

Thank you Brian.

Guys, this is a seemingly simple email that Brian sent me, but I wanted to post it because, as is often the case with Brian's emails, it -- and he -- has a lot to say.

Now, in one of his previous posts, The Warrior Altruism of the Warrior God, Brian spoke of the Divine Aspect of the Warrior -- that is, the Warrior God.

And we saw how Brian had connected the dots between the Warrior God -- whom he, as a Christian, thinks of as Jesus; Warrior Altruism; and Christ's sacrifice on the Cross.

Thus giving the concepts of both the Warrior God and Warrior Altruism great and living force -- in his own life.

Here, what we see is how having that *living* spiritual model of the Warrior -- and it's essential that all of you have such a Warrior spiritual model in your own lives -- empowers and strengthens Brian.

So let's take a look.

Brian says,

since getting involved with The Alliance I smile, and laugh (in a chuckling way) a lot more, probably because I am now a lot more at ease with myself

Right.

Brian says he's "a lot more at ease with myself."

He's a lot more at ease.

He's a lot more at ease with himself.

HIM-self.

Why is he a lot more at ease with HIM-self?

He tells us:

I really was re-born when I was able to become Warrior Brian

He really was re-born when he was able to become *Warrior* Brian.

The Alliance re-stored to him what was his by right of *birth* -- his MAN-hood -- in the form of his most primal male identification -- his identification as a WARRIOR.

So that he was *re-born* as WARRIOR Brian.

Freeing him to Worship the WARRIOR GOD -- and to, again, identify as a WARRIOR.

Which is why he's now more at ease with HIM-self and HIS-self -- His Masculine Self -- His Manhood -- his Warriorhood.

As he says:

I really was re-born when I was able to become Warrior Brian

Brian really was re-born --

when he was able to become WARRIOR Brian.

He went from being a guy who, as he's told us before, was afraid --

15 months ago I was just plain Mr. Brian Hulme, member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, Gayguy, and scared to say so.

Now though I am Warrior Brian, Christian Man, Masculine Man, and proud of it, all thanks to the Man2Man Alliance

So Brian went from being a "Gayguy, and scared to say so," to being re-born as a MAN and a WARRIOR.

And I'm putting "WARRIOR" in all caps repeatedly to try to make this as clear as I possibly can.

Brian was reborn as a MAN and a WARRIOR --

Which again, is his birth-right.

And that gives him the Freedom

to say to the world "This is me, Warrior Brian, I want to be with a Man, and you can take it or leave it, so there!"

He's WARRIOR Brian.

He's a MAN.

And he can say "I want to be with a Man, and you can take it or leave it, so there!"

And that is the good, strong, statement of a FREE MAN.

Which is something Warrior NW keeps telling you:

That there's a DIRECT relationship between being a FIGHTER -- a WARRIOR -- and being FREE.

So: This is about identifying as a Man and in particular Man as Fighter, Man as WARRIOR.

Indeed, with a recent tithe Warrior Brian sent me a picture of a Christian Warrior donning his armor -- as in Ephesians:

That's Man, Man the Fighter, Man the Warrior.

And that's how Brian now thinks of HIM-self.

And it's made him strong.

Confident.

While with another tithe, Brian said, in a letter,

Recently some namby-pamby guy said to me, "See you in Heaven."

It got me thinking and I had to laugh, what does he think heaven is? Thatched roof cottages in green, flowery fields? Because if he looks for me there I don't think he will find me.

I will want to get into Valhalla, the feisting hall of Warriors (from Vair "the slain" and Hall) all from Vikings.

It's where Warriors go to enjoy themselves, eating (roasted meat), drinking (ale or wine but *not* getting drunk) and wrestling each other (naked of course).

Now that sounds like Heaven to me!

Brett would be there, feeding Hadrian from bits from the table, and waiting for Patrick and you, yes real Heaven, it will be great!

Again, that's a strong WARRIOR statement from Brian.

He looks forward to an afterlife not of flowery fields, but of feasting and FIGHTING -- Nude.

Which is my idea of Heaven too -- spend all day FIGHTING other guys Nude -- and spend all night in WRESTLING and COCK COMBAT.

Which is what WARRIORS do.

They FIGHT their bodies -- and they FIGHT their COCKS.

So Brian now thinks of himself as a WARRIOR.

A WARRIOR who wants to spend Eternity -- Feisting -- as he puts it, which I really like -- with other WARRIORS.

Feisting.

WARRIORS are Feisty and Strong -- Combative and Confident.

And then, too, to prepare the Way to Warrior Heaven, as Brian just told us, he Worships the Warrior God, daily; his first prayer of the day is offered as he stands naked, like a Greek or other Warrior, before his God, the Warrior God, and, perhaps, says something like this:

"I am a masculine man and here is my manhood."

"Thank you for making me the man that I am."

And in commenting to me on that post, which is properly titled Worshipping the Warrior God, Brian said to me

I just hope my post encourages guys in moving forward to becoming Warriors. I know they will like it when they get there, for I have NEVER been or felt happier or more content IN MY LIFE.

So:

Brian makes a simple statement:

I really was re-born when I was able to become Warrior Brian

But it's actually quite profound.

Because it tells us what's gone right for WARRIOR Brian -- and what's gone wrong for so many other males.

When Brian was able to become WARRIOR Brian -- he was re-born.

Re-born into Manhood.

Re-born into Warriorhood.

Males who aren't allowed to or don't allow themselves to become Warriors -- aren't re-born.

They remain -- males.

Many, many problems which those males face today are the result of their being robbed of their Warrior identity.

Which is core to Man.

Why is that?

I could try to tell you -- I could say for example that Fighting Spirit is the Hallmark of Masculinity.

And that Fighting Spirit is Warrior Spirit.

Or I could talk about the sociobiology of being male.

And the male need to form Warrior bonds and Warrior bands.

That's something Men have long recognised.

Xenophon, for example, the Athenian aristocrat turned hoplite mercenary commander turned Spartan insider, says

And obviously glory adheres to the side of valour, for all men want to ally themselves somehow with the brave.

~translated by Marchant

All Men want to ally themselves with the Brave.

That's what all Men want.

Warrior NW understands that.

In his brilliant memoir The Right to Fight, he says

A male knows that he gets his masculine energy from his male pack of friends. His Peers.

Peers.

The Peers or Equals is what the ancient Spartans called each other -- hoi homoioi in Greek -- hoi = the, homoioi = peers or equals -- the "homo" part means same or equal.

Hoi homoioi.

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Spartan Warriors
Homoioi
Equals
Peers

The Peers.

The Equals.

They were all Warriors.

They were all, in theory, economic equals, having each been assigned an equal plot of land at birth.

And from earliest childhood they'd been organized into male packs or troops -- the Spartans called them, in that poetic way so common among Warrior societies, "the herds of the bull-calves."

The boys were young bulls.

Growing up together.

Testing and developing their maleness against and through each other.

I don't know how many of you have seen groups of young bulls.

But they have head-butting contests -- they test and develop their strength through and against each other.


Bison Bull Calves butting heads


Adult Bison Bulls butting heads

It was the same in Sparta.

The older Men would encourage the boys to Fight -- so that they could observe and judge how aggressive each would be "in their struggles" -- says Plutarch.

While an older boy -- he was called an eiren -- would supervise the boys "in their fights."

Struggles.

Fights.

Battles between rival herds.

Everything in their lives encouraged them to be Masculine, to be Men, to be Warriors.

And to put Valour and Honor first.

And they were Happy.

And Proud.

Proud to be Spartans.

And with good reason.

Plato's utopian Republic was modeled on Sparta.

But Plato's Republic exists only on paper.

Sparta was real.

And Sparta was a state founded on an ideal of Valour and Honor.

Plato called it a timocracy -- "timo" for Honor -- the Rule of Honor.

It wasn't an aristocracy, nor an oligarchy -- it was rather a state governed by an ideal --

an ideal of Courage.

Of Valour.

And of Virtue.


Spartan warriors carry the body of a fallen comrade.

Which for the Spartans, was Masculine.

But which affected and shaped the Spartan Women too.


Spartan Female Athlete or Dancer
Spartan Women were encouraged to be athletic

Because they too shared in Virtue -- in Areté.


Spartan Eiren -- a Youth of Fighting Age -- in Ceremonial Helmet
Along with other young Warriors, he would perform a martial dance which emphasized his fighting skills
and which was dedicated to the God Apollo

So : The whole point to the Spartan state was that at any moment, you had to be ready to Fight.


Spartan Warrior


Spartan Warrior


Spartan Warrior


XXXXA Spartan Warrior or King
XXXXHe's barefoot and wears a simple red cloak
XXXXhis only article of clothing


Spartan Temple
The Warriors are based on the figures seen above


Spartan Kings

So -- the Spartan Warrior, like the Spartan state, was intended to be a lean mean Fighting machine.

And that was why so much of the agogé consisted of the older men and older boys egging the younger boys on to Fight.

It's the opposite of what NW talked about in his memoir -- how, when he was a boy in the schoolyard the nuns would break up fights.

The Spartans did the opposite -- they not only encouraged but incited the boys to fight -- and that continued into young adulthood.

Imagine a childhood and adolescence spent naked and fighting other nude boys.


You may not believe that -- but that's what the ancient accounts describe.

Just think of Statius -- the Roman poet who did a Latin version of the Greek epic Seven Against Thebes, and whose language we discuss in AGOGE I: The Spear-points of Young Men Blossom There.

He says "nudamque lacessere pugnam"

which means "and incites / challenges / provokes to nude fight"

nude combat

pugnam nudam

Statius has no question -- this is what guys do -- they strip and fight.

There's no effeminized bullshit.

You don't have to justify it -- you just do it.

You strip and fight.

And the way it's written suggests that the stripping is part of the incitement.

Part of the challenge.

And there's a Latin phrase which Statius uses to describe the process of getting rid of the cloak or tunic which was usually the combatants' only article of clothing:

exsertare umeros = freeing the shoulders

Remember in that regard that as part of their training, the young men of Sparta, who possessed only one article of clothing -- a cloak, which was easily discarded -- were divided into two "teams," which, according to Plutarch, "fell to fighting" whenever they encountered each other.

They were constantly encouraged to fight.

And that fighting, says Statius, was a crucial part of their instruction in:

"nudaeque modis virtutis"

nudae = nude

modis = ways

virtutis = Valour / Virtue

"and ways of naked valour"

The Ways of Naked Valour.

[There are Spartan warriors from] steep Taygetus
And hardy squadrons from Eurotas where
The white swans breed. The God of Arcady
Himself had reared them in the dusty ring
And trained them in the ways of angry war
And naked valour; hence their high resolve
And sweat the sacrament of glorious death.

Parents are gladdened by their children's fate
And urge them to their doom; the young men all
Are shedding tears, the mothers well content
To lay the wreaths. Reins in their hands they hold
And javelins, a pair, with thongs attached;
From huge bare shoulders hangs a shaggy cloak,
Swans' feathers crown each crest.

~ Statius, Thebaid, IV, 227-40

"The dusty ring" is the ring in the Palaistra -- the Fight School -- where the boys and Men Fight -- in wrestling, boxing, and pankration.

The "God of Arcady" is Hermes, God of the Games, who was present in every Palaistra as a Herm, a phallic God,

and who trains the boys "in the ways of angry war and naked valour."


A victorious athlete and Nike join in crowning a Herm

And Statius later says that the dust of the Fight Ring -- the Fight Space -- is "hot with men's raw sweat."

That's the effect of Nude ManFight -- in Nude ManSpace.

Men's hot raw sweat -- the Sacrament of Naked Valour.

And of course there's blood too.

Blood too is the Sacrament of Naked Valour.

Here on them both the wheel of fortune brought
Frenzy and bloodshed; neither would endure
to share a roof to ward the night away.

First a brief pause for threatening words, then rage
Swelled as taunts flew, and both sprang to their feet
And bared their bodies and stood stripped to fight.

Taller and towering stood the prince of Thebes,
Proud in his prime, but soul and strength no less
Supported Tydeus; in his tiny frame
Through every limb a greater valour reigned.

Then, as they battle, blow on blow is struck
On face and forehead, thick as arrows fall
Or Arctic hail, and knees are flexed to bruise
Soft sides and loins. Like, when the years bring on
Jove's contests at Olympia and the dust
Is hot with men's raw sweat and, seated round,
Crowds urge the young lads on with rival cries,
And mothers wait outside to hail the prize,
So those two charged, fired by no love of fame --
Hate was the spur -- and deep into each face
The fingers scratch and probe and penetrate
Their flinching eyes.

Of course, hate should not be the spur -- and the combatants should be fired by the love not of fame but of Areté --

nevertheless, bloodshed is part of it -- part of the sacrament.

Hot raw sweat and bright red blood -- the Sacrament of Naked Valour.

In Sparta, the Way of Naked Valour -- is the Way of the Warrior.

And it's his Salvation:



So -- in trying to explain why WARRIOR is core to MAN, I could tell you things like that -- but I don't know that you'd listen.

So let me put it this way:

There's a line in an old Woody Allen movie that goes something like this:

"I didn't create the cosmos, I just explain it."

And I guess I can say something similar -- though I'd modify it a bit --

"I didn't create the cosmos, I just describe it."

So: I have a pretty good idea -- really more than pretty good -- of why Men need to be Warriors.

But ultimately after all -- that's not something I did -- I didn't invent it, and it's not something I made happen or created --

It's just something I've seen -- over and over and over and over again.

Men need their Warrior identity.

It's core to who and what Men are.

Look:

That's Man.

And that's just how it is.

Doesn't matter how you want it to be.

That's how it is.

Look again.

So -- when we're able to reach a guy like Brian -- and help him to be re-born as WARRIOR Brian -- we've helped him A LOT!

And he knows it.

As he said in another email:

As for my support of the Alliance well if it wasn't for the Alliance I would not be the MAN that I am now so the Alliance deserves my support and as long as there is an Alliance I WILL support it in every way I can.

The Alliance has helped Brian.

To be the MAN he now is.

And he's demonstrating that he is indeed a MAN by returning the favor and helping the Alliance.

The Man2Man Alliance.

The Alliance helped him -- Man 2 Man.

And now he's helping the Alliance -- Man 2 Man.

Couldn't be clearer.

But most of you just don't get it.

You have NO sense of your responsibility to other Men.

Which means you yourself are NOT a Man.

You're not.

Because a Man is a stand-up guy.

Translation: A Man does what's right by his fellow Men.

You don't -- so you're not.

It's like when I suggest that you train in a martial art or some other Fight Sport.

You don't do it.

You're so dense and stupid and self-impeding I wonder why I bother to try to help you.

Because you won't be helped.

But that's what you need to do -- you need to train.

Two or three evenings a week -- that's all it is.

You're not doing anything else with your time -- you could train.

You're afraid to.

You're afraid of being a Man.

So how can you be helped?

The other day I got an email from Warrior NW who said

Wrestling teaches guys to totally physically engage each other. Such a cool thing.

It is cool.

To totally -- physically -- engage -- with another guy -- another Man.

Wouldn't that be cool?

I know -- you'd like it if it were naked.

But most of the time when it's naked it's just pretend.

What NW is talking about is to TOTALLY physically engage with another guy.

That's what's cool.

And it can't be pretend.

It can't be some fag fantasy.

It has to be real.

Like this:

When those guys fought naked, they weren't pretending.

They were actually FIGHTING.

Furiously and all out.

Which is how you have to Fight.


As NW says, speaking of his training as a wrestler:

YES this was erotic. However, it was the learning of the Fight Move that was erotic, NOT JUST the buffed bodies we had and the touching of each other in full contact. I know now that it was that Learning and Practicing of the Fight Moves that turned me on. And I know now that this IS totally normal. The anticipation of that body contact/aggression IS a normal male turn-on. To deny it is to promote some sort of neurosis. And to learn and experience male body contact aggression, such as wrestling, is to experience a Normal Male Mentality.

It wasn't just the touching he says.

It was the Aggression -- the FIGHTING.

"To learn and experience male body contact aggression, such as wrestling, is to experience a Normal Male Mentality."

"To deny it is to promote some sort of neurosis."

Yet you -- yes, you dear reader, with your fag mentality -- deny it.

And so you promote neurosis -- your own.

YOU promote YOUR OWN neurosis.

MEN who FIGHT, by contrast, "experience a Normal Male Mentality."

BUT it has to be experienced.

It's gotta be real.

And when it's real --

It really is the coolest thing you can do.

But you won't do it.

So you'll never know how cool it is.

And how healthy it is.

How it strengthens and builds your body and mind and spirit -- all at once.


But you'll never know.

You'll get old and die -- and you'll never have known.

Dumb.


Now -- We're not always able to reach Men as thoroughly as we've reached Brian.

But that's not our fault.

It's because there are cultural elements, very powerful cultural elements, which get in the way.

Generally speaking, those are analist and effeminist elements.

There's also heterosexism, but among the gay-identified males, it's the analist and effeminist bullshit which gets in the way.

Which I see very clearly in the email I receive.

And which Robert Loring has talked about a lot on this site.

He talks about it in The Warrior God.

He talks about Warrior Societies and their Warrior Gods.

He says this:

Imagine a world in which men bonded closely with other men. A world in which natural male masculinity ruled the day instead of some pseudo-manhood known as male femininity. A world in which men were unafraid to show their feelings to other males. A world in which masculine men honored their own manhood and the masculinity of other men.

Imagine a world in which masculine male nudity was commonplace and socially acceptable. A world in which it was not a "sin" for men to sexually frot with other masculine males. A world, in which, male bonding was encouraged and supported. A world in which masculine men taught other males how to become truly masculine men of pride, honor, and fidelity.

Imagine a world in which the Warrior Ethos was something that was honored and esteemed instead of shunned and discouraged. A world in which natural male aggression was respected and valued. Natural male aggression would be self disciplined by such males as they walked through their lives living as honorable and noble Warriors.

The naturally masculine male would have a major place in such a world just as he did in ancient days when the Hoplites and others ruled the times. No longer would there be a war against the natural male, natural masculinity, or natural male aggression. Man would truly be once again MASCULINE MAN. Males would be unafraid to love their brothers in the natural bonds of the brotherhood of man. Males could simply be themselves.

The world we live in today stands against this vision at every turn. It opposes anything that even comes near natural maleness, natural masculinity, and natural male aggression be that aggression disciplined aggression or unbridled aggressiveness. Today's society is a society of hypocrisy! More and more the nude male body is becoming an object of shame and disgust even though the nude male body is something beautiful, masculine, serene, and sacred.

There is a war against the natural male and the sad fact is that most males are losing that war. To even begin to win that war, males need to return to what they once were and be unafraid again to love, to be simply themselves, and to being noble modern Warriors!

Robert says this:

The world we live in today ... opposes anything that even comes near natural maleness, natural masculinity, and natural male aggression be that aggression disciplined aggression or unbridled aggressiveness. Today's society is a society of hypocrisy! More and more the nude male body is becoming an object of shame and disgust even though the nude male body is something beautiful, masculine, serene, and sacred.

"The world we live in today ... opposes anything that even comes near natural maleness, natural masculinity, and natural male aggression ... Today's society is a society of hypocrisy! More and more the nude male body is becoming an object of shame and disgust even though the nude male body is something beautiful, masculine, serene, and sacred."


serene and sacred

And Robert says this:

It is the human mind which is the true battlefield. It is in the male mind that the war upon manhood is being waged.

For, it is the male mind where the battlefield is in the ongoing and ruthless war upon the natural and masculine brotherhood of man.

And, Robert says,

The image of an ideal that a male holds in his mind will be that which he eventually becomes. Hold the ideal of something weak and ruled by fear and that is the image you will become. But, hold the ideal of something that is strong and compassionate and the process is the same for, that then is what you will become in your masculine life.

So -- it matters how you think about yourself, how you imagine yourself, and who your role models are.

Because your mind -- *your* mind -- is the battlefield "in the ongoing and ruthless war upon the natural and masculine brotherhood of man."

Case in point:

Recently I got a letter from a guy named Juan.

Juan doesn't speak English, so he had to have this letter translated from Spanish.

This is what he said:

help me i dont want be analist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hello excuse not speak English I hope you read this email, I have read these pages and really you are right.

I'm 35 and I thought that gay sex was synonymous with anal sex, but I see that it is not. Now people know who have had anal intercourse that pleasure is fictional, psychological most of the time you have to masturbate to orgasm.

Now my question is I am aware that anal sex is not pleasurable, is dangerous for health, it is dirty and denigrates me as a man, because sometimes feel like it, I need your help to rid this dangerous addiction

Thanks

Juan

Now -- I wrote back to Juan and I could post my entire reply to him here.

But the crux of his issue is this:

He's "aware," he says, that anal is not pleasurable, that it's dangerous, and dirty, and -- this is the important one -- that anal "denigrates him as a man."

Anal denigrates him as a man.

Yet he still keeps doing it.

Why?

Because he doesn't think that being denigrated as a Man -- is as important as doing anal.

There's no way around that.

He has two choices:

  1. Be a Man.

  2. Do anal.

And, like some crazed contestant in some dopey dreck-driven game show, a gay-me show, he keeps on choosing Door Number Two.


Even though what lies behind Door Number Two is dirt and disease, degradation and death.


But he keeps choosing it.

Because the cultural messages he's getting from his analist subculture and his analist femmy "friends" -- not only tell him to do anal, but also encourage him to denigrate his Manhood.

Which means that WHEN HE WEIGHS THE RELATIVE WORTH OF BEING PENETRATED ANALLY AGAINST THE WORTH OF HIS MANHOOD -- anal wins.

And that, like I say, is the crux of the problem.

How can you help a male who thinks that doing anal is more important than his MANHOOD?

He's told us that he understands that anal denigrates him as a man.

Yet he's willing to be denigrated.

He's willing to sacrifice his man-ness.

His Masculinity.

His Manhood.

And that's because his culture tells him he should.

So, you know, I gave him the standard advice about avoiding analist culture and porn and hook-up sites, etc -- which will be hard for him to do -- and about shedding his "gay" identity.

Which will also be hard for him to do.

But so long as he hears those analist messages -- which constantly denigrate his manhood --

doing anal and thus doing damage to his manhood -- will not seem to him the horror which it actually is.

And that's the problem.

Until we can generate cultural messages in sufficient number that they can begin to compete with those of the analists and the effeminists, guys like Juan will always put their manhood second -- at best.

At worst, they'll seek to rid themselves of it -- entirely.

It's what Robert said:

It is in the male mind that the war upon manhood is being waged.

It's in Juan's mind that this battle is being lost.

But, I have to say, it's also in his body.

Everytime he's penetrated, he becomes weaker -- emasculated, effeminized, and more easily preyed upon.

Again, I see this all the time in my email.

Here's another example -- subtler, but the same deal:

Thanks for your web site.

I live in a rural area and have no chance to be with guys anymore, so I only have your site.

I think your psychology is healthy, and your description of a womans and man's outer anatomy makes sense, and makes it easier to explain being with a guy.

I was married, but when I had a chance to be close with my buddy after weeks in the mountains, frot came natural. It was just 2 guys being equal brothers and one. I never wanted anything else. We were in love with each other as men.

I know guys who are biologically wired for anal sex, so I think you are being hard on them. But I think that is good. The gay world has dictated what we do and I think it's good to get tough back. Also there are many guys who prefer frot once they learn it, but they need to hear some good PR about frot. They need help in overcoming their training, beause the brain bonds to estabished habits.

Your site has hot stories about guys who do relentless cock battle and then they both come at the same time. What happens when one comes first? Is his buddy expected to endure the "relentless" dick fucking "fighting"?????

I have a buddy in Iraq. When we were together we used to die our balls together and fuck cocks until we both came. The one who came first had to endure head friction until his buddy came, and was not supposed to cry or whine! Are there any stories discussing that dillemna??? I have not read everything on the site.

Please don't put my email address on the site. I have a family.

I appriate what you are doing for the male community.

Joe

There's a lot of bullshit in Joe's email, a lot of fantasy.

You guys need to live, not just fantasize.

And Joe obviously, despite what he says about living rural, has drunk long and deep of both analism -- and heterosexism too.

Here's what I said to him in reply.

Joe:

I live in a rural area and have no chance to be with guys anymore, so I only have your site.

Bill:

There are guys in your area Joe.

The problem is that you're closeted and closed off and have bought into the idea of "gay."

So you think you're all alone.

You're not.

Guys have sex with guys.

Always have.

Always will.

Even in rural Montana.

If you let yourself be open to that, Joe, you'll find those guys.

I think your psychology is healthy,

That's correct -- it is.

and your description of a womans and man's outer anatomy makes sense, and makes it easier to explain being with a guy.

Okay.

But you don't need to explain being with a guy Joe.

You don't need excuses or reasons or anything else.

It's normal and natural for Men to have sex with Men.

They've done it -- cock2cock and balls2balls -- for tens of thousands of years.

In cultures which lack a divine prohibition against Men Loving Men -- they do so openly and virtually universally.

Translation: they ALL do it.

Even in our culture, with its innumerable lies and obfuscations about sex between Men -- guys have sex with guys.

And you know that's true Joe -- because you've done it.

Or at least you say you have.

You've had sex with a guy -- that's what you say.

So:

Stop thinking of yourself as unique or special.

In that regard you're not.

You're just a guy.

Like millions upon millions -- literally billions -- of others.

And guys, compare what "Joe" is saying -- that he needs to "explain being with a guy" -- with what Brian says -- "This is me, Warrior Brian, I want to be with a Man, and you can take it or leave it, so there!"

Do you see the difference?

It's a huge difference.

A MAN who is truly a MAN -- doesn't need to explain being with another MAN.

He just does it.

I was married, but when I had a chance to be close with my buddy after weeks in the mountains, frot came natural. It was just 2 guys being equal brothers and one. I never wanted anything else. We were in love with each other as men.

Is that true Joe?

What happened to that buddy?

Or is that just another of your fantasies?

I know guys who are biologically wired for anal sex,

Really?

How do you know that Joe?

Have you stuck a finger up their shitty butts and pulled out a wire?

Or maybe a cathode ray tube?

What incredible nonsense.

What bullshit.

No one is "wired" for anal.

Anal penetration is an inherently vicious and UNnatural act.

Have you read an anus is not a vagina?

It's on the list of core articles.

Here are some excerpts:

The anus is an organ of fecal excretion soley.

It has no erectile nor any other sort of genital tissue, and clearly did not evolve nor was designed to be part of any sexual act.

From these facts flow two of the most salient characteristics of anal penetration:

  1. That there is virtually no physiologic pleasure to be derived from the act for the person penetrated; and

  2. That during penetration the anus is extraordinarily vulunerable to both pathogens and mechanical damage.

When I say there is virtually no physiologic pleasure, Joe, I'm echoing Dr Stephen Goldstone, an openy "gay" physician and ano-rectal surgeon, who stated on his website that aside from the exterior of the anus and perhaps the first two interior inches, "The rest of your rectum and colon do not have nerves that sense pleasure."

Which means that NO ONE is "wired" for anal.

Anal is a big fat whopping and murderous lie.

Men *are* hard-wired for Frot.

Because it's mutually genital sex.

Genital-Genital Sex.

And that's What Sex Is.

What's going on is that the buttboys, seeing that I use the term hard-wired, are STEALING it -- because that's what they do.

And then making that ridiculous claim.

THEY'RE LYING.

They are among the most vicious and immoral people ever to walk the face of this earth.

In America alone, they're responsible for more than 500,000 deaths.

To this day, each and every day, 80 guys get infected because of their selfish and ugly rectal fetish.


pushed, pulled, and thrown into the analist sewer of death

And that's what it is -- a life-destroying fetish.

Don't ever tell me Joe that I'm being "hard" on those slimy, lying, shit-eating assholes.


an analist eats shit
notice the lack of erection in "his" "partner"
a perverse and perverted act which spreads a myriad of diseases

so I think you are being hard on them. But I think that is good.

Uh huh.

So which is it?

Am I being hard or is that good?

Joe, don't the hundreds of thousands of dead in America and the millions worldwide count for anything with you?

Or didn't that happen in rural Montana?

Get real.

The gay world has dictated what we do and I think it's good to get tough back.

That's right.

Also there are many guys who prefer frot once they learn it, but they need to hear some good PR about frot.

That's right they do.

So what are you doing, Joe, to help them hear that PR?

They need help in overcoming their training, beause the brain bonds to estabished habits.

Uh huh.

So what are you doing Joe to help get that word out?

What are you doing?

Your site has hot stories about guys who do relentless cock battle and then they both come at the same time. What happens when one comes first? Is his buddy expected to endure the "relentless" dick "fighting"?????

I have a buddy in Iraq. When we were together we used to tie our balls together and fight cocks until we both came. The one who came first had to endure head friction until his buddy came, and was not supposed to cry or whine! Are there any stories discussing that dillemna??? I have not seen anything like that on the site.

And you never will.

That's just your little masochistic fantasy.

It's not the sort of scenario we'd endorse.

Won't happen.

Please don't put my email address on the site. I have a family.

Fine.

But "having a family" shouldn't prevent you from stating your male-male needs and desires.

I appriate what you are doing for the male community.

Good.

That being the case, what are you doing to help us?

Have you donated?

Do you put up links where appropriate on the web:

http://www.man2manalliance.org/

That's important.

Just putting up links.

Very important.

Donating is important.

Joe, I see on the web that you've put a lot of energy into developing and preserving natural varieties of wheat.

That's good.

That's a righteous act.

Helps people eat.

What are you doing for yourself?

What are you doing for your fellow Men?

What are you doing to free them and yourself from all the lies told about sex between men and about "sexual orientation?"

What are you doing?

Suppose I wrote you Joe and said, You're being hard on the genetic-modification folks.

We need gm -- it's part of the mix too.

Some people are wired to need gm food.

Who cares about preserving diversity?

And who needs natural varieties?

What's important is making sure that Monsanto flourishes.

Suppose I wrote you those sort of letters.

Wouldn't that piss you off?

Figure it out.

The creatures who do anal are not your friends, they're not your buddies, they're not on your side.

They've had a murderous impact upon this one sweet world of ours.

And upon, I have no doubt, your one sweet precious life.

And you should be saying so.

Loud and clear.

Bill Weintraub


So what you see with Joe is that he's conflicted.

He's into Frot on some level.

And he recognizes that the buttboys have oppressed him as a result.

But he still believes analist crap like some males are "biologically wired for anal sex [sic]"

It's not anal sex, it's anal penetration.

And no one is wired for it.

No one.

But Joe's mind is, as Robert Loring has said, a battlefield.

"It is in the male mind that the war upon manhood is being waged."

And as Robert says, it's a ruthless war, a war "upon the natural and masculine brotherhood of man."

Joe is losing that war.

Brian Hulme, WARRIOR BRIAN HULME, has, within his own male mind, WON that WAR.

He's approached it as a WARRIOR, and he's won.

He's won his Manhood.

And now he can say, "This is me, Warrior Brian, I want to be with a Man, and you can take it or leave it, so there!"

Joe can't do that.

He says he needs to "explain being with a guy."

No he doesn't and NO -- you don't either.

You don't have to explain it, you don't have to make any excuses, you don't have to apologize for it or anything else.

You're a WARRIOR, and this is something which WARRIORS have done for millenia.

Nor do you have to listen to the unending analist lies and bullshit about wires in their butts and so forth.

Anal is a lie.

Anal penetration is a social evil.

Analism is the enemy of humanity.

Don't believe it?

Look at the numbers.

Think of how many hundreds of thousands have died in the US alone -- and how many millions have died worldwide of an anally-vectored disease.

Both Joe and Juan -- and you too -- may someday become part of those numbers.

But it won't happen to Brian.

Brian has embraced his identity as a Warrior and as a Man.

He's embraced his Manhood.

The Greeks had a word -- andragathia.

It's "andros" -- man -- plus "agathos" -- good or excellent.

Andragathia.

It means Manly Excellence.

Which, the Greeks understood, is always tied to Manly Aggression -- to Warriorhood.


A Victorious Boxer stands next to a Herm, a symbol of Male Sexuality

MAN -- WARRIOR -- FIGHTER -- PHALLUS -- they're all inter-related.




Warrior Brian understands.

Do you?

If you do, you need to show me and all your fellow Men you do -- by donating.

If you don't, you need to try to understand.

Because until you do, nothing good will come your way.

Your life will continue to devolve.

As it should.

You don't deserve any better.

It's what Danielou says of the Phallus:

Contempt for this sacred emblem as well as degradation and debasement of it, pushes man from the divine reality. It provokes the anger of the gods and leads to the decline of the species. The man who scorns the very symbol of the life principle abandons his kind to the powers of death.

He abandons his kind, he abandons his self -- to the powers of death.

The male who dishonors his Phallus by sticking it in a hole full of shit; the male who dishonors his Phallus by letting himself get fucked -- those males abandon themselves to the powers of death.

And the males like you who understand that -- but who do nothing to prevent it -- you too abandon yourself to the powers of death.

That's what you're doing.

You need to think.

You need to think hard.

You need to think fast.

Because what's at stake is your life -- your ONE sweet precious life.

I thank Warrior Brian Hulme.

Who's a true Warrior.

Who says he really was re-born when he was able to become Warrior Brian.

And who says, "I just hope my post encourages guys in moving forward to becoming Warriors. I know they will like it when they get there, for I have NEVER been or felt happier or more content IN MY LIFE."

Wouldn't you like to feel happy and content?

Perhaps you -- with your fag mentality -- believe that you don't deserve happiness and contentment.

Perhaps you believe that because you're a Man who Loves Men you don't deserve that.

Yet you do deserve it.

It's true that you'll have to work for it.

But you'll like the work that you do because it's the work of a Warrior.

Remember what Warrior NW said:

To learn and experience male body contact aggression, such as wrestling, is to experience a Normal Male Mentality.

To deny it is to promote some sort of neurosis.

So your choice is between being happy and content, or miserable and neurotic.

My goodness gracious, how blind and silly can you be?

Stop dithering.

Join Brian.

Join NW.

Join the Alliance.

Become a MAN.

Become a WARRIOR.

Bill Weintraub

May 31, 2010

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This aspect of our work is the one that's most disturbing and indeed frightening to our opponents:

That we combine the Love of Man with the Love of Fighting Spirit.

Which is Warrior Spirit.

The Warrior God is the Guardian of that Spirit.

You may call him Jesus Christ as Robert Loring does.

You may call him Ares as did the Greeks.

What's important is that you understand and acknowledge the vital role He plays in Your Life:






The masculinity of men flows from their group. Their natural masculinity combines and gets manifold when masculine men unite. The camaraderie, mutual understanding, support, learning the ways of the world as a male, fighting together, dealing with roughs and toughs of life together -- they all help to develop the natural masculinity that exists within them.

They had many words for struggle and combat and fighting and strife -- maches, eris, hamilla, agon, polemos, ares -- and athlos, the word from which we derive our word "athlete."

In Greece, athletai could be rivals on the playing field or the battlefield.